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		<title>To fire, or not to fire, &#8216;workaholics&#8217;&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://cyberfox.com/blog/37-to-fire-or-not-to-fire-workaholics</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cyberfox</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greetings, There&#8217;s an interesting few blog posts going on about folks who work really hard. It started from Jason Calacanis&#8217;s article of tips on how to save money when running a startup (many of which are good, but #11 is &#8216;Fire people who are not workaholics&#8230;&#8217;) and that was picked up at the 37signals SvN [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings,<br />
There&#8217;s an interesting few blog posts going on about folks who work really hard.  It started from Jason Calacanis&#8217;s article of <a title="How to save money running a startup" href="http://www.calacanis.com/2008/03/07/how-to-save-money-running-a-startup-17-really-good-tips/">tips on how to save money when running a startup</a> (many of which are good, but #11 is &#8216;Fire people who are not workaholics&#8230;&#8217;) and that was picked up at the <a title="Signal vs. Noise" href="http://www.37signals.com/svn/">37signals SvN blog</a> which <a title="Fire the workaholics" href="http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/902-fire-the-workaholics">comes out strongly against workaholics</a>.</p>
<p>As with everything else, it&#8217;s not that simple&#8230;</p>
<p>In the successful startups I&#8217;ve worked at, a core of people staying late, working long hours, was a symptom of having an idea that people can believe in.</p>
<p>I have not seen any very successful startups where the developers weren&#8217;t at least a little monomaniacal about their work.</p>
<p>On the contrary, I&#8217;ve been at two successful startups (defined here as wildly successful IPO&#8217;s) where having those fanatic developers was a core reason of why they were successful.</p>
<p>The people who were putting in overwhelming hours at those companies weren&#8217;t doing it because they&#8217;re workaholics.  They were doing it because they were true believers.  Both in the company itself and the product they were building.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about the workaholics making the company successful, it&#8217;s about the company being one that the employees can believe in, to the point of _wanting_ to be there, wanting to be making it better.</p>
<p>In those cases, you don&#8217;t fire the people who are passionate about building your company.  You support them, and accept that they&#8217;re going to crash occasionally, and try to nerf the crash some&#8230;</p>
<p>In my experience, it&#8217;s the fervent employees who are the core of successful startups.  This was true at McAfee Associates (went public in 1992), and PayPal (went public in 2002), both successful startups that I was part of.</p>
<p>You also need people who aren&#8217;t as fervent, who can see a wider view, so it&#8217;s always a balance.  So you can&#8217;t really &#8216;fire&#8217; either of them, out of hand.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been that true believer, focusing everything into a job or project that I deeply care about.  I&#8217;m a much calmer, more balanced person now, though.  We&#8217;ll see what happens in 2012&#8230;  <img src='http://cyberfox.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8211;  Morgan</p>
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		<title>Re: &#8220;When vendors get nuts&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://cyberfox.com/blog/34-re-when-vendors-get-nuts</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cyberfox</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greetings, This is in response to: http://wabisabilabi.blogspot.com/2007/05/when-vendors-get-nuts.html &#8220;When vendors get nuts&#8221; I&#8217;m not sure I deserve the shout-out from Kelly G, but I appreciate it! To address one point in the post, though, you have to step back a minute and remember that those McAfee posts are probably made by one of their devs.  They&#8217;re [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings,<br />
This is in response to:</p>
<p>http://wabisabilabi.blogspot.com/2007/05/when-vendors-get-nuts.html</p>
<p>&#8220;When vendors get nuts&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I deserve the shout-out from Kelly G, but I appreciate it! <img src='http://cyberfox.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>To address one point in the post, though, you have to step back a minute and remember that those McAfee posts are probably made by one of their devs.  They&#8217;re human and, while it&#8217;s been over 13 years since I&#8217;ve been anywhere near there, they probably wish that the company was unnecessary as much as we did back then.</p>
<p>We (meaning I) always used to dream (not fear!) that Microsoft would destroy the anti-virus business by actually implementing a good file and disk security system in DOS&#8230;only in nightmares did we imagine that it&#8217;d be 2007 and this crap would still be around.  I lay most of the blame at Microsoft&#8217;s door, for some fundamental design failures (too-easy blending of data and code), but it&#8217;s also possible we didn&#8217;t do enough to evangelize TO the OS vendors.</p>
<p>Still, shareholders be damned; for the people in the trenches of anti-virus work, what many REALLY wanted is the world to be a better place, so our software wasn&#8217;t necessary.</p>
<p>It was often quite exciting work, and I freely admit I made a small bundle out of it (not anywhere near as much as some, and I got screwed by the IRS in the end!), but there was always that thought of, &#8216;I wish these twits would stop writing this crap.&#8217;</p>
<p>Every single time you talk to a customer (which even devs did back then) it was driven home once more how much heartache viruses caused people.</p>
<p>What I wouldn&#8217;t give to take every person who wants to write a virus because they think it&#8217;s &#8216;cool&#8217;, to sit on a customer support line for a few hours, talking to people who&#8217;ve been hurt by viruses.  <img src='http://cyberfox.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never (before or after) been exactly a law-abiding citizen online, but after my experience at McAfee I had a very strong aversion to building things that can cause pain to others.</p>
<p>There are people who build viruses because they&#8217;re paid to, and there&#8217;s nothing really to be done about that, and there are people who don&#8217;t care about anybody because of psychological issues&#8230;<br />
If you just think it&#8217;s cool, though&#8230;just imagine someone you cared about, losing all their data, because of what you&#8217;re doing.  Find a better hobby.</p>
<p>&#8211;  Morgan Schweers</p>
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		<title>Startup advice, for joining and starting.</title>
		<link>http://cyberfox.com/blog/18-startup-advice-for-joining-and-starting</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 02:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cyberfox</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greetings, I joined another startup&#8230;  Not quite as small as Scoble&#8217;s new venture, and not part of the bubblicious blogging/vlogging/podcasting, etc. world, but still relatively small.  However, I have about 8 months of mortgage payments in savings, and several small side-services that make me enough to cover utilities and food if we&#8217;re really careful.  I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings,<br />
I joined another startup&#8230;  Not quite as small as <a title="Remembering the Post-Bubble Pain" href="http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/2006/07/22/remembering-the-post-bubble-pain">Scoble&#8217;s new venture</a>, and not part of the bubblicious blogging/vlogging/podcasting, etc. world, but still relatively small.  However, I have about 8 months of mortgage payments in savings, and several small side-services that make me enough to cover utilities and food if we&#8217;re really careful.  I no longer would really think of joining a startup without that partial net, but then I have responsibilities that I&#8217;m not willing to fail on.<br />
The only thing I&#8217;m really afraid of if my company tanks is losing health care&#8230;  When you don&#8217;t have that safety net, one serious health issue can mean the difference between surfing the web and getting sucked under the waves.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll pass along a piece of advice for anyone looking to start a company, from someone (me) who&#8217;s been through several startups.  (McAfee Associates and PayPal being two very notable, <em><strong>very</strong></em> successful, and very different, ones, in different decades.)  The advice is useless ever since 1994 because the &#8216;free money&#8217; vibe of the VCs has infused the business world and made it <em>hard</em> to follow, but it&#8217;s free advice anyway, and worth whatcha pay for it.  <img src='http://cyberfox.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to start a company, be profitable FIRST, before you ever talk to VCs.  If you don&#8217;t NEED their money, but you&#8217;re on one of the beautiful adoption curves, they&#8217;ll fight each other to be the one who gets the right to give you money.  Sure, you don&#8217;t need it, but if spent right, it can (1) pay for the dog&#8217;n'pony &#8216;going public&#8217; show, and (2) move you one or two rungs up the doubling curve.</p>
<p>The funny thing to me is that people take the money out of the get-go, to move them up 1-2 rungs when the power curve is low, boosting them from 1000 users to 4000 users.  What they should (in my oh-so-not-humble opinion) do is grow slower for a little while, then take the money when jumping the power curve would mean the difference between 250,000 users and 1 million users AND you&#8217;re not dependent on the VCs for your existence.</p>
<p>This means growing slower at the start, only growing as fast as you can afford to, keeping yourself as close to cash-neutral as you can, and always being one cost-cutting exercise from being profitable.  It&#8217;s not the preferred method for a class of folk who were raised and bred on tales of overnight millionaires, and &#8216;get big fast&#8217; (which only works for a very SMALL subset of companies) but it&#8217;s the way to build a sustainable, exit-strategy-free business.  (Exit-strategy-free meaning you don&#8217;t NEED one, not that you don&#8217;t HAVE one.)</p>
<p>I saw it done at McAfee Associates, and we completely dominated the conversation with the VCs.  It wasn&#8217;t a request for money, it was a bidding war on the part of some top-notch firms, and that was in 1992, before the first bubble even started to be blown.  We were chugging in about $10Mil/year as I recall, and spending less than a quarter of that.  I don&#8217;t believe that company was EVER unprofitable, from the quarter it was founded.</p>
<p>McAfee Associates took the company from &#8220;the three Fs&#8221; (family, friends, and fools) to profitable without really going through the intervening step of angels or venture capitals.  (Now, for what it&#8217;s worth, some of those 3Fs were&#8230;understandably upset that they didn&#8217;t see any return when the company made it big, but that&#8217;s just part of the darker side of the history of McAfee Associates, and not directly relevant to the point I&#8217;m making.)</p>
<p>Now McAfee Associate&#8217;s distribution model was nearly free (distributed by BBS), advertising was &#8216;make a good product and get people to talk about it and show its use off&#8217;, the product was&#8230;well, you could joke that it was viral. <img src='http://cyberfox.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   People used it, found it was useful and necessary, and handed it to other people who probably needed it.  The product was free and fully functional, but every run it put up a message, basically that &#8216;if you&#8217;re using this in a company, educational institution, or government organization, you must purchase a license&#8217;.  End users paid the registration fee sometimes, which was a nice base source of income, but companies <em>leapt</em> to license.  Mostly because their employees were using the software, needed the software, and were handing it around inside the company.  Someone would point out the license issue, and the company would <em><strong>call us to pony up</strong></em>.  We never had to call anyone to sell the software, it sold itself, and our users sold it for us.  Most people wouldn&#8217;t imagine it, but companies really are decently minded when it comes to dealing with other companies.  Or at least so afraid of lawsuits that they&#8217;re willing to be decent citizens.  Sometimes a big company would use their size to pressure us to give them a discount, which we were happy to do, because it was nearly free money anyway.  Our overhead was fixed, we didn&#8217;t advertise, we told them to download themselves a copy each quarter, or if they paid enough we&#8217;d send them a floppy once a quarter.<br />
What&#8217;s changed in the world since then?  Well, a lot, but I&#8217;ll put forward that mainly the scale has changed.  Free distribution through BBSes reached a large percentage of the computer using population back then.  Distribution through the Internet reaches a HUGE percentage of the computer-using population now.  If you make a good product, people can talk much more widely about it with blogs.  Companies are still looking to be good citizens, primarily, and there are a LOT more of them out there.  Oh, and you probably don&#8217;t have to mail them a floppy each quarter, no matter how much they pay.<br />
So the one of the biggest things I&#8217;d suggest to &#8216;start profitable&#8217; is to target your product at corporations, but make it attractive to end-users as well, so they&#8217;ll bring it into the company.  As Willie Sutton <a title="Oft-misquoted Willie Sutton, Bank Robber" href="http://www.banking.com/ABA/profile_0397.htm">didn&#8217;t say</a> but is said to have said, when asked about why he robbed banks, &#8220;That&#8217;s where the money is.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;  Morgan Schweers, Cyber<strong>FOX</strong>!</p>
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