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		<title>Re: &#8220;When vendors get nuts&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greetings, This is in response to: http://wabisabilabi.blogspot.com/2007/05/when-vendors-get-nuts.html &#8220;When vendors get nuts&#8221; I&#8217;m not sure I deserve the shout-out from Kelly G, but I appreciate it! To address one point in the post, though, you have to step back a minute and remember that those McAfee posts are probably made by one of their devs.  They&#8217;re [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings,<br />
This is in response to:</p>
<p>http://wabisabilabi.blogspot.com/2007/05/when-vendors-get-nuts.html</p>
<p>&#8220;When vendors get nuts&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I deserve the shout-out from Kelly G, but I appreciate it! <img src='http://cyberfox.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>To address one point in the post, though, you have to step back a minute and remember that those McAfee posts are probably made by one of their devs.  They&#8217;re human and, while it&#8217;s been over 13 years since I&#8217;ve been anywhere near there, they probably wish that the company was unnecessary as much as we did back then.</p>
<p>We (meaning I) always used to dream (not fear!) that Microsoft would destroy the anti-virus business by actually implementing a good file and disk security system in DOS&#8230;only in nightmares did we imagine that it&#8217;d be 2007 and this crap would still be around.  I lay most of the blame at Microsoft&#8217;s door, for some fundamental design failures (too-easy blending of data and code), but it&#8217;s also possible we didn&#8217;t do enough to evangelize TO the OS vendors.</p>
<p>Still, shareholders be damned; for the people in the trenches of anti-virus work, what many REALLY wanted is the world to be a better place, so our software wasn&#8217;t necessary.</p>
<p>It was often quite exciting work, and I freely admit I made a small bundle out of it (not anywhere near as much as some, and I got screwed by the IRS in the end!), but there was always that thought of, &#8216;I wish these twits would stop writing this crap.&#8217;</p>
<p>Every single time you talk to a customer (which even devs did back then) it was driven home once more how much heartache viruses caused people.</p>
<p>What I wouldn&#8217;t give to take every person who wants to write a virus because they think it&#8217;s &#8216;cool&#8217;, to sit on a customer support line for a few hours, talking to people who&#8217;ve been hurt by viruses.  <img src='http://cyberfox.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never (before or after) been exactly a law-abiding citizen online, but after my experience at McAfee I had a very strong aversion to building things that can cause pain to others.</p>
<p>There are people who build viruses because they&#8217;re paid to, and there&#8217;s nothing really to be done about that, and there are people who don&#8217;t care about anybody because of psychological issues&#8230;<br />
If you just think it&#8217;s cool, though&#8230;just imagine someone you cared about, losing all their data, because of what you&#8217;re doing.  Find a better hobby.</p>
<p>&#8211;  Morgan Schweers</p>
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