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		<title>Comment on An informal survey of Rails web application pricing by Bruce Denney</title>
		<link>http://cyberfox.com/blog/2009/07/25/68/an-informal-survey-of-rails-web-application-pricing/comment-page-1#comment-12357</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Denney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the charges should be based on two criteria &quot;the amount the software is used&quot;, &quot;the value of its functionality&quot; and &quot;the amount of resources needed to run it&quot;

The objective is to create a financial structure that mirrors reality.  If you code a very useful premium function that is barely used you might earn the same as from a very basic function that is used a huge amount.

This is in itself an application, a micro billing platform that allows users to pay for what they use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the charges should be based on two criteria &#8220;the amount the software is used&#8221;, &#8220;the value of its functionality&#8221; and &#8220;the amount of resources needed to run it&#8221;</p>
<p>The objective is to create a financial structure that mirrors reality.  If you code a very useful premium function that is barely used you might earn the same as from a very basic function that is used a huge amount.</p>
<p>This is in itself an application, a micro billing platform that allows users to pay for what they use.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An informal survey of Rails web application pricing by Cyberfox</title>
		<link>http://cyberfox.com/blog/2009/07/25/68/an-informal-survey-of-rails-web-application-pricing/comment-page-1#comment-8075</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyberfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings,
While my phone number is (thankfully) somewhat hard to find (it&#039;s on the WHOIS record for this domain though :( ), my email address is pretty easy.

I have to admit I&#039;m always curious about interesting projects; I have since found a good position, however.  The post was in July, and I started work at the end of September.

If you want to talk about your interesting project, feel free to email me at gmail.com.  &#039;cyberfox&#039; is the user name.  If I can&#039;t help you, maybe I can point you to some other resources.

--  Morgan Schweers, Cyber&lt;strong&gt;FOX&lt;/strong&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings,<br />
While my phone number is (thankfully) somewhat hard to find (it&#8217;s on the WHOIS record for this domain though <img src='http://cyberfox.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  ), my email address is pretty easy.</p>
<p>I have to admit I&#8217;m always curious about interesting projects; I have since found a good position, however.  The post was in July, and I started work at the end of September.</p>
<p>If you want to talk about your interesting project, feel free to email me at gmail.com.  &#8216;cyberfox&#8217; is the user name.  If I can&#8217;t help you, maybe I can point you to some other resources.</p>
<p>&#8211;  Morgan Schweers, Cyber<strong>FOX</strong>!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tap two cheddar and a mozzarella, play a fondue&#8230; by Cyberfox</title>
		<link>http://cyberfox.com/blog/2005/09/26/7/tap-two-chedder-and-a-mozzerella-play-a-fondue/comment-page-1#comment-8074</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyberfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings,
Wow!  Glad you enjoyed!  Hopefully it worked out well for you...

We did not flour (or corn starch as some folks use) the cheese; the primary reason to do so is to prevent the cheese solids from separating from the oils.  We stirred gently, and used a gentle heat, so it never separated for us.

Sadly, in the four+ years since, my wife has given up her World of Warcraft account.  (Actually early last year, when I ended up unemployed for a while and we were cutting costs.)  Now we keep our MMOing to Lord of the Rings: Online.  Partly because of a love of the subject matter, and partly because it&#039;s a low-stress MMO, and lots of it can be taken on in 2-person fellowships.

We don&#039;t get on there much either, what with a 20mo. old running around. :)

I&#039;m very glad you enjoyed the article; hoist a fork for us next time you get over to La Fondue!

--  Morgan Schweers, CyberFOX!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings,<br />
Wow!  Glad you enjoyed!  Hopefully it worked out well for you&#8230;</p>
<p>We did not flour (or corn starch as some folks use) the cheese; the primary reason to do so is to prevent the cheese solids from separating from the oils.  We stirred gently, and used a gentle heat, so it never separated for us.</p>
<p>Sadly, in the four+ years since, my wife has given up her World of Warcraft account.  (Actually early last year, when I ended up unemployed for a while and we were cutting costs.)  Now we keep our MMOing to Lord of the Rings: Online.  Partly because of a love of the subject matter, and partly because it&#8217;s a low-stress MMO, and lots of it can be taken on in 2-person fellowships.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t get on there much either, what with a 20mo. old running around. <img src='http://cyberfox.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m very glad you enjoyed the article; hoist a fork for us next time you get over to La Fondue!</p>
<p>&#8211;  Morgan Schweers, CyberFOX!</p>
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		<title>Comment on An informal survey of Rails web application pricing by Gary Mart</title>
		<link>http://cyberfox.com/blog/2009/07/25/68/an-informal-survey-of-rails-web-application-pricing/comment-page-1#comment-8061</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Mart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;while I’m unemployed&quot;; perhaps if it were easier to get in touch with you (I was unable to find a phone number for you) this would not be the case.  Anyway, I have an interesting project for which you may be a good fit.  Please contact me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;while I’m unemployed&#8221;; perhaps if it were easier to get in touch with you (I was unable to find a phone number for you) this would not be the case.  Anyway, I have an interesting project for which you may be a good fit.  Please contact me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tap two cheddar and a mozzarella, play a fondue&#8230; by Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you SO much for posting this recipe!

My husband and I are La Fondue lovers as well; and now that we live so far away (only about an hour drive...but driving home on a full tummy isn&#039;t fun) I&#039;m going to make this for him as a Christmas present.

Now, did you flour the cheese before adding it to the mixture? Everywhere I&#039;ve read has said that flouring it was an absolute necessity.

Oh, and what server is your wife on? My husband and I are both on Killrog (my first 80, alliance) and Earthen Ring (DKs). It would be great to get to know another couple with similar interests to ours!!!

Merry Christmas!
~Erin Blomquist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you SO much for posting this recipe!</p>
<p>My husband and I are La Fondue lovers as well; and now that we live so far away (only about an hour drive&#8230;but driving home on a full tummy isn&#8217;t fun) I&#8217;m going to make this for him as a Christmas present.</p>
<p>Now, did you flour the cheese before adding it to the mixture? Everywhere I&#8217;ve read has said that flouring it was an absolute necessity.</p>
<p>Oh, and what server is your wife on? My husband and I are both on Killrog (my first 80, alliance) and Earthen Ring (DKs). It would be great to get to know another couple with similar interests to ours!!!</p>
<p>Merry Christmas!<br />
~Erin Blomquist</p>
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		<title>Comment on An informal survey of Rails web application pricing by Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this information.  We are also working on pricing for our SaaS product.  Our clients will be businesses (Universities to start).  The big part missing from from your analysis is that it does not have any data on the actual functional value of the different services.  I am not familiar with a number of these websites, so I wonder if there is some metric that can measure SaaS pricing compared to the scope and utility of functionality that it is buying.   We are having a hard time finding a similar service to help set a value for our service (this, I guess, is agood thing for competition).  We have attempted to do some analysis on what the cost would be to our clients to perform the same service without our software, but this is a difficult analysis.  Ultimately, I keep coming back to what seems &quot;fair&quot;, and what would I consider paying for it myself.  I do think this tends to undervalue the product, though.   If anybody has some thoughts, check out our website demo at www.datacookbook.com and send us soem pricing ideas.  I would be happy to do the same.  (Note: The software is scheduled to be released in November)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this information.  We are also working on pricing for our SaaS product.  Our clients will be businesses (Universities to start).  The big part missing from from your analysis is that it does not have any data on the actual functional value of the different services.  I am not familiar with a number of these websites, so I wonder if there is some metric that can measure SaaS pricing compared to the scope and utility of functionality that it is buying.   We are having a hard time finding a similar service to help set a value for our service (this, I guess, is agood thing for competition).  We have attempted to do some analysis on what the cost would be to our clients to perform the same service without our software, but this is a difficult analysis.  Ultimately, I keep coming back to what seems &#8220;fair&#8221;, and what would I consider paying for it myself.  I do think this tends to undervalue the product, though.   If anybody has some thoughts, check out our website demo at <a href="http://www.datacookbook.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.datacookbook.com</a> and send us soem pricing ideas.  I would be happy to do the same.  (Note: The software is scheduled to be released in November)</p>
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		<title>Comment on My response to eBay&#8217;s Bid Assistant&#8230; by JLouis</title>
		<link>http://cyberfox.com/blog/2007/05/18/29/my-response-to-ebays-bid-assistant/comment-page-1#comment-5443</link>
		<dc:creator>JLouis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your reply Morgan. I can see your point, and I live by those same principals. If I had a $25 item and it sold for $1.00 I would be all means no matter how sacred that item might mean or that I knew the value of it, I would ship it and be thankful that someone got it at such a low bargain price. I honestly would. I recently sniped a pair of baseball caps and I honestly felt that I got a super low bargain that I felt bad for the seller, and offered the seller some extra money cause shipping was half of the price I paid. Another seller who I bid on two of their items, had not sold anything lately and so I won two of her auctions, offered to pay extra to them and they refused the extra money. Spending time in the ebay community, I do come across people who lament about winning something and the seller not wanting to let go, hence the idea of ending auctions early. Some sellers simply end auctions early after removing all the bids on their items (haven&#039;t done that in a long time, so I forget about the process a seller has to undertake for that closure). 

Anyway, I did look at Gixen as it was a registered Godaddy website since 2001 and was under construction until early 2004. Mario I think is the owner, and I did read some of the comments people made about it, pro and con. One thing that lingered in the comments made about Gixen was that at times it was too slow to process the bid. While the Netblock is in Michigan, I noticed that their is way too many other websites on those two DNS&#039;s that Gixen is on. 

NS14.ZONEEDIT.COM (has 180,456 domains) 
NS7.ZONEEDIT.COM (has 180,456 domains) 

This tells me that your user and passwords might not be so encrypted, though their SSL ends in 1095 days

To there Credit: Gixen Mirror is a multi-server, fault-tolerant sniping service, unmatched by 
any other sniping service or sniping software. Your snipes are sent twice, from
two different hosting locations.

(not I understand how or why some snipe sites other than this Gixen, which I had never heard about, make double entries). 

Also I was surprised that the traffic of users was not heavily dominated by the US, where they get good traffic from UK as well. 

I might try their service, but I think I will download your Jbirdwatcher again on a Fresh XP install. What I really should do is install Jbirdwatcher on my server for my bandwidth is pretty good. Also, I really like the name Jbirdwatcher.

Though I still think that some newbie sellers should have the option of closing their auctions early if they did make a honest mistake. Oh well one idea down the drain. No problem, I have many others that I hope to see in my lifetime. Take care, blessings 2 you Jbirdwatcher!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your reply Morgan. I can see your point, and I live by those same principals. If I had a $25 item and it sold for $1.00 I would be all means no matter how sacred that item might mean or that I knew the value of it, I would ship it and be thankful that someone got it at such a low bargain price. I honestly would. I recently sniped a pair of baseball caps and I honestly felt that I got a super low bargain that I felt bad for the seller, and offered the seller some extra money cause shipping was half of the price I paid. Another seller who I bid on two of their items, had not sold anything lately and so I won two of her auctions, offered to pay extra to them and they refused the extra money. Spending time in the ebay community, I do come across people who lament about winning something and the seller not wanting to let go, hence the idea of ending auctions early. Some sellers simply end auctions early after removing all the bids on their items (haven&#8217;t done that in a long time, so I forget about the process a seller has to undertake for that closure). </p>
<p>Anyway, I did look at Gixen as it was a registered Godaddy website since 2001 and was under construction until early 2004. Mario I think is the owner, and I did read some of the comments people made about it, pro and con. One thing that lingered in the comments made about Gixen was that at times it was too slow to process the bid. While the Netblock is in Michigan, I noticed that their is way too many other websites on those two DNS&#8217;s that Gixen is on. </p>
<p>NS14.ZONEEDIT.COM (has 180,456 domains)<br />
NS7.ZONEEDIT.COM (has 180,456 domains) </p>
<p>This tells me that your user and passwords might not be so encrypted, though their SSL ends in 1095 days</p>
<p>To there Credit: Gixen Mirror is a multi-server, fault-tolerant sniping service, unmatched by<br />
any other sniping service or sniping software. Your snipes are sent twice, from<br />
two different hosting locations.</p>
<p>(not I understand how or why some snipe sites other than this Gixen, which I had never heard about, make double entries). </p>
<p>Also I was surprised that the traffic of users was not heavily dominated by the US, where they get good traffic from UK as well. </p>
<p>I might try their service, but I think I will download your Jbirdwatcher again on a Fresh XP install. What I really should do is install Jbirdwatcher on my server for my bandwidth is pretty good. Also, I really like the name Jbirdwatcher.</p>
<p>Though I still think that some newbie sellers should have the option of closing their auctions early if they did make a honest mistake. Oh well one idea down the drain. No problem, I have many others that I hope to see in my lifetime. Take care, blessings 2 you Jbirdwatcher!</p>
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		<title>Comment on An informal survey of Rails web application pricing by Cyberfox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyberfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 08:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings,
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Tony Wright&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;em&gt;I think geeks are pretty unsophisticated about segmenting&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I agree strongly.  We &lt;small&gt;(geeks)&lt;/small&gt; default to looking for areas in the code that can be tuned to enforce segmenting.  When I worked for McAfee Associates, we didn&#039;t impose any code limits, we just...asked how many machines they had when they called, and quoted them a price based on that.  We also gave the program away for free, with a little message that said that companies, government agencies and educational institutions were required to site-license the application.  Made millions...

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Coupon codes (pingdom!)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Pingdom &lt;strong&gt;totally&lt;/strong&gt; bought my business with the 70% off thing.  They carefully didn&#039;t say if it would last until the end of the 30 day trial period, and so I felt pressure to sign up.  Plus, it was a low cost of entry, and a tool that was useful to me.  I was very impressed by the sales process, and it was entirely scalable as it was zero-touch.

Affiliate marketing (get someone else to sign up and pay for 2 months, you both get a free month) works nicely (see: ServerBeach, whom I recently upgraded my server with), also.

As for A/B testing...I don&#039;t know.  I heard recently that NewRelic RPM had signed up their 2000th customer recently.  While that&#039;s good money, that&#039;s not a good sample set for A/B testing pricing.  Plus, as Amazon learned, when you test pricing like that, folks tend to talk...and you can get bad publicity.

You&#039;re very right about the cost sensitivity of businesses, though.  Everything in my experience shows that if you&#039;re selling into companies (and they want what you&#039;ve got) there&#039;s two segments: &#039;everything under $500&#039; &lt;small&gt;(where &#039;$500&#039; is fungible depending on your field)&lt;/small&gt;, and &#039;we need authorization for that&#039;.  (If they already REALLY want it, authorization is easy.)  Business pricing is &lt;em&gt;probably&lt;/em&gt; easier, but may end up being higher touch, the higher the price goes.  My current stuff is more targeting individual users, who are very sensitive to cost, though.  Thus the analysis of the companies above who are...mostly targeting individuals in the pricing levels I looked at, if not the broader category of &#039;consumers&#039;.

I feel like I should come up with a pricing strategy that feels fundamentally &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;fair&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, and then shift all the service levels up one notch in cost.  :)

--  Morgan Schweers, Cyber&lt;strong&gt;FOX&lt;/strong&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings,</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Tony Wright</strong>: <em>I think geeks are pretty unsophisticated about segmenting</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I agree strongly.  We <small>(geeks)</small> default to looking for areas in the code that can be tuned to enforce segmenting.  When I worked for McAfee Associates, we didn&#8217;t impose any code limits, we just&#8230;asked how many machines they had when they called, and quoted them a price based on that.  We also gave the program away for free, with a little message that said that companies, government agencies and educational institutions were required to site-license the application.  Made millions&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Coupon codes (pingdom!)</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Pingdom <strong>totally</strong> bought my business with the 70% off thing.  They carefully didn&#8217;t say if it would last until the end of the 30 day trial period, and so I felt pressure to sign up.  Plus, it was a low cost of entry, and a tool that was useful to me.  I was very impressed by the sales process, and it was entirely scalable as it was zero-touch.</p>
<p>Affiliate marketing (get someone else to sign up and pay for 2 months, you both get a free month) works nicely (see: ServerBeach, whom I recently upgraded my server with), also.</p>
<p>As for A/B testing&#8230;I don&#8217;t know.  I heard recently that NewRelic RPM had signed up their 2000th customer recently.  While that&#8217;s good money, that&#8217;s not a good sample set for A/B testing pricing.  Plus, as Amazon learned, when you test pricing like that, folks tend to talk&#8230;and you can get bad publicity.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re very right about the cost sensitivity of businesses, though.  Everything in my experience shows that if you&#8217;re selling into companies (and they want what you&#8217;ve got) there&#8217;s two segments: &#8216;everything under $500&#8242; <small>(where &#8216;$500&#8242; is fungible depending on your field)</small>, and &#8216;we need authorization for that&#8217;.  (If they already REALLY want it, authorization is easy.)  Business pricing is <em>probably</em> easier, but may end up being higher touch, the higher the price goes.  My current stuff is more targeting individual users, who are very sensitive to cost, though.  Thus the analysis of the companies above who are&#8230;mostly targeting individuals in the pricing levels I looked at, if not the broader category of &#8216;consumers&#8217;.</p>
<p>I feel like I should come up with a pricing strategy that feels fundamentally <strong><em>fair</em></strong>, and then shift all the service levels up one notch in cost.  <img src='http://cyberfox.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8211;  Morgan Schweers, Cyber<strong>FOX</strong>!</p>
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		<title>Comment on An informal survey of Rails web application pricing by Cyberfox</title>
		<link>http://cyberfox.com/blog/2009/07/25/68/an-informal-survey-of-rails-web-application-pricing/comment-page-1#comment-5401</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyberfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 08:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings,
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;I&#039;m also launching a SaaS offering and pricing has been a major issue.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s really one of the surprisingly difficult things; something that most people just don&#039;t think about, but turns out to be &lt;em&gt;freaky&lt;/em&gt; hard.

Tony&#039;s got a good point, though.  If you&#039;re targetting businesses, they often won&#039;t balk at what we might consider steep prices.  If you&#039;re targeting consumers, like I am, then they&#039;re much more price conscious IMO.  Many of the companies I profiled target a mix of consumer users and business users, and that makes for a more difficult mix.  It reminds me of the first company I worked for, though, who offered their application free for personal use, but companies, agencies, and institutions had to get a site license.  (The application didn&#039;t have any way of checking, it just put up a message to that effect.)  They were making more than $25 million/year by the time I left.  And had gone public. :)

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;part-time start-ups are fraught with a lot of risk&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I know that&#039;s generally true.  For me, right now, it&#039;s less so.  I&#039;m unemployed, so it&#039;s not really &#039;part time&#039;, and it&#039;s a niche of a niche, so &lt;em&gt;nobody&lt;/em&gt; is going to be beating down my door to give me money that I&#039;ll have to think about how to repay.  I&#039;m very debt-averse, and always have been, but that&#039;s not a risk for me right now.

The obligations I &lt;strong&gt;will&lt;/strong&gt; have are to my users.  I don&#039;t want to disappoint them; my last desktop version has over 80,000 downloads.  Getting .5% of those as users of the web app would still mean 400 users, and that leaves me in a form of &#039;debt&#039; to them.  My biggest fear (with regards to spinning up this application) is that I won&#039;t be able to keep it up, and I&#039;ll have to wind it down and disappoint those users.

This is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; me trying to change the world.  This &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; me trying to learn what it means to do &lt;em&gt;everything&lt;/em&gt;; &#039;sales&#039;, seo, marketing, billing, accounting, product management, development, UI, UX, front-end, middle-tier, back-end, and support.  For the last 20+ years I&#039;ve been focusing on the software development (middle and back) tiers (and doing support for my own app).  I&#039;ve dabbled in the other parts, but never seriously trying to push a money-making product out the door by myself.

This way, when I &lt;strong&gt;do&lt;/strong&gt; want to change the world, or even help someone else change the world again, I&#039;ll be even more ready. ;)

Seriously, though, I appreciate the warning.  It&#039;s a good thing for folks to keep in mind.  Try very hard to avoid incurring debts that will last if the business fails.

--  Morgan Schweers, Cyber&lt;strong&gt;FOX&lt;/strong&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings,</p>
<blockquote><p><em>I&#8217;m also launching a SaaS offering and pricing has been a major issue.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s really one of the surprisingly difficult things; something that most people just don&#8217;t think about, but turns out to be <em>freaky</em> hard.</p>
<p>Tony&#8217;s got a good point, though.  If you&#8217;re targetting businesses, they often won&#8217;t balk at what we might consider steep prices.  If you&#8217;re targeting consumers, like I am, then they&#8217;re much more price conscious IMO.  Many of the companies I profiled target a mix of consumer users and business users, and that makes for a more difficult mix.  It reminds me of the first company I worked for, though, who offered their application free for personal use, but companies, agencies, and institutions had to get a site license.  (The application didn&#8217;t have any way of checking, it just put up a message to that effect.)  They were making more than $25 million/year by the time I left.  And had gone public. <img src='http://cyberfox.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p><em>part-time start-ups are fraught with a lot of risk</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I know that&#8217;s generally true.  For me, right now, it&#8217;s less so.  I&#8217;m unemployed, so it&#8217;s not really &#8216;part time&#8217;, and it&#8217;s a niche of a niche, so <em>nobody</em> is going to be beating down my door to give me money that I&#8217;ll have to think about how to repay.  I&#8217;m very debt-averse, and always have been, but that&#8217;s not a risk for me right now.</p>
<p>The obligations I <strong>will</strong> have are to my users.  I don&#8217;t want to disappoint them; my last desktop version has over 80,000 downloads.  Getting .5% of those as users of the web app would still mean 400 users, and that leaves me in a form of &#8216;debt&#8217; to them.  My biggest fear (with regards to spinning up this application) is that I won&#8217;t be able to keep it up, and I&#8217;ll have to wind it down and disappoint those users.</p>
<p>This is <em>not</em> me trying to change the world.  This <em>is</em> me trying to learn what it means to do <em>everything</em>; &#8217;sales&#8217;, seo, marketing, billing, accounting, product management, development, UI, UX, front-end, middle-tier, back-end, and support.  For the last 20+ years I&#8217;ve been focusing on the software development (middle and back) tiers (and doing support for my own app).  I&#8217;ve dabbled in the other parts, but never seriously trying to push a money-making product out the door by myself.</p>
<p>This way, when I <strong>do</strong> want to change the world, or even help someone else change the world again, I&#8217;ll be even more ready. <img src='http://cyberfox.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously, though, I appreciate the warning.  It&#8217;s a good thing for folks to keep in mind.  Try very hard to avoid incurring debts that will last if the business fails.</p>
<p>&#8211;  Morgan Schweers, Cyber<strong>FOX</strong>!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Menard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the work. I&#039;m also launching a SaaS offering and pricing has been a major issue. 

Also, and I know you didn&#039;t solicit this, part-time start-ups are fraught with a lot of risk. I wish you luck with it, but be sure you can close it up with no long term financial obligations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the work. I&#8217;m also launching a SaaS offering and pricing has been a major issue. </p>
<p>Also, and I know you didn&#8217;t solicit this, part-time start-ups are fraught with a lot of risk. I wish you luck with it, but be sure you can close it up with no long term financial obligations.</p>
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